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Working Traits

 

The comparisons below are not to insinuate or convince that the WEBs are "of" or descended of the said breeds below, yet to prove that they are indeed their own breed, far different than modern bull breeds. These comparisons prove that the working and social traits of the WEB are the same as those of LGDs.  The WEB has been used in the rural south as livestock and home protection for as long as anyone can remember.

Working dogs are not defined by titles. Working dogs are dogs achieving the function the dog was bred for. It is the real life, everyday situations that a working dog conducts and reacts to and successfully accomplishes on a daily basis that defines a true working dog. Occasional performances in staged events do not equate to real life, everyday situations. 

Livestock guardian dogs

"To understand the working traits of the WEB we must first discuss the history and working traits of the shepard's dogs. We can gain insight into man’s relationship with early hunting dogs by looking at cultures where dogs maintain a similar function today. We can, likewise, see how early flock guards worked when we look at working livestock guard dogs today. We can see how several different regional breeds developed according to specific environmental, cultural, and historic factors. As humans and human society developed, so did these early dogs. As hunters became shepherds, different qualities were desired in their dogs. Thus, the shepherd’s dogs developed into two distinctly different types of canine partners. The first is the herding dog, whose "prey drive" (or instinct to chase) has been combined with a desire to please and a willingness to be controlled by the herder-handler. These breeds are usually "colored" (that is, not solid white), have prick or erect ears, and are high in energy. The second shepherd’s dog is quite different and may well predate the herding dog. This type of dog is known as the "livestock guarding dog," "livestock guardian," or "flock guard."

Unlike a herding dog such as the border collie, a LGD does not control the movement of the flock with aggressive or predatory actions causing bunching. Instead, LGDs tend to blend into the flock and generally ignore the individual animals in favor of keeping an eye out for potential threats. While bunching behavior is observed, it is the livestock that tend to bunch around the guarding dogs, especially on open range when predators are near. Livestock guardian dogs tend to behave in a non-predatory and protective way only with animal species they have been raised with. Proper socialization and instinct, not training, are key to rearing an effective LGD. Bonding LGDs to cattle is more difficult than bonding them to the smaller livestock species. However, the practice of bonding guarding dogs to cows is becoming more common, especially in places such as the American West where the reintroduction of predators has conflicted with cattle herds in areas where predation had been rare. Livestock guarding dogs are generally large and protective, which can make them less than ideal for urban or even suburban living. Nonetheless, despite their size, they can be gentle, make good companion dogs, and are often protective towards children. If introduced to a family as a pup, most LGDs are as protective of their family as a working guard dog is of its flock. In fact, in some communities where livestock guarding dogs are a tradition, the runt of a litter would often be kept or given as a household pet or simply kept as a village dog without a single owner. Anywhere from one to five dogs may be placed with a flock or herd depending on its size, the type of predators, their number, and the intensity of predation. If predators are scarce, one dog may be adequate though range operations usually require two dogs. Both male and female LGDs have proved to be equally effective in protecting of livestock. However, in regions where dogs were used in annual transhumance migrations, males were often used exclusively as LGDs since pregnant bitches and newborn pups would likely perish on the long journeys. The three qualities most sought after in LGDs are trustworthiness, attentiveness and protectiveness -- trustworthy in that they do not roam off and are not aggressive with the livestock, attentive in that they are situationally aware of threats by predators, and protective in that they will attempt to drive off predators. Dogs being social creatures with different personalities will may take on different roles with the flock or herd and among themselves: most sticking close to the livestock, others tending to follow the shepherd or rancher when one is present, and others drifting farther from the livestock. These different roles are often complementary in terms of protecting livestock and experienced ranchers and shepherds sometimes encourage these differences by adjustments in socialization technique so as to increase the effectiveness of their group of dogs in meeting specific predator threats. LGDs that follow the livestock closest assure that a guard dog is on hand if a predator attacks, while LGDs that patrol at the edges of a flock or herd are in a position to keep would-be attackers at a safe distance from livestock. Those dogs that are more attentive tend to alert those that are more passive but perhaps also more trustworthy or less aggressive with the livestock. While LGDs have been known to fight to the death with predators, in most cases, predator attacks are prevented by a display of aggressiveness. LGDs are known to drive off predators that physically they would be no match for such as bears and even lions. With the reintroduction of predators into natural habitats in Europe and North America, environmentalists have come to appreciate LGDs because they allow sheep and cattle farming to coexist with predators in the same or nearby habitats. 

The behavior and instincts of the herding dog, like the Border Collie, are diametrically opposed to those of the livestock guarding dog. The livestock guarding dog's instincts are very different from those of the herding dog. In many ways, the guardian is diametrically opposed to the herding dog. Unlike the herding dog, the livestock guarding dog’s instinct is not to control the herd or flock. Rather, the guardian becomes a member of the flock, a lion lying down with the lamb, or perhaps more accurately, "a sheep in wolf’s clothing." The majority of the livestock guarding breeds are white or light colored and have pendant ears. They are termed "independent" by their admirers, and occasionally "stubborn" or "selectively deaf" by those who do not understand them well. They are often very intelligent but, because of their independence in judgment and action, they receive a lower ranking on "canine IQ tests" than the more obedient herding breeds receive. Likewise, these guardian breeds tend to be less energetic, with little or no instinct to "eye", chase, or kill livestock. The pendant ears, the quiet disposition, the size, and the shape of the head has lead to the conclusion that the livestock guarding breeds of today are descended from early mastiffs (see comparison above right) – a type of dog which first appeared in the friezes at Nineveh in ancient Assyria. In these guarding situations, the size and the quiet disposition of the livestock guardian are important, but even more so, are the dog’s lack of "prey drive" and its unique ability to bond to the livestock, accepting the flock as its "pack." Because of this bond, the guard dog spends the day moving with the livestock as they graze, ever vigilant for hungry predators. At night the guard dog is found with the flock or herd in the "bed" ground – usually a small, protected natural pasture central to the area where the flock/herd will graze for the next 7 to 10 days, yet removed from the camp or house. The herding dogs, on the other hand, are with the herder day and night. They trot along side his horse during the day and curl up in camp at night. In North America, however, the large native predators have not been driven to extinction in the wild. Here the livestock guarding dogs face predators worthy of their Old World ancestors, predators like wolf, bear, and even "lion" in the form of the mountain lion or cougar. However, they also protect livestock from the two North American predators responsible for most of the livestock losses – the coyote and the domestic dog. The protection of the livestock from predators is solely the responsibility of the guarding dog. The best of the flock guardians display a tremendous tolerance for their charges and a real reluctance to show aggression toward them. In the herd, an alpha animal may butt or ram the guard dog. The dog’s reaction should be avoid confrontation rather than attack. This tolerance easily transfers to humans, to both children and adults.

Dr. J.: "I know you raised prize-winning Angus cattle for years. Did you use your American Bulldogs in raising cattle?"

John D.: "Yes, I used them frequently. Mildred used Black Jack to help herd the cattle into the barn, but the dogs instinctively will go for the bull's nose and are very useful in catching and holding an unruly bull or steer. Other neighboring farmers would sometimes request that I use my bulldogs in helping them catch and hold an unruly bull, and I remember one instance in which it took three bulldogs to pin him, one on his nose, one on his tongue, and one holding onto his ear."  Interview with JDJ

Above, Johnson is discussing his early stock, which were very capable, athletic working dogs with the proper working temperament, quite unlike his later stock and what the JDJ Bulldog has become today. It is a known fact that both JDJ and Alan Scott did not endorse the use of bulldogs in Schutzhund or Personal Protection training.

"I don`t have 60 plus yrs. of breeding under my belt, but I've been breeding these White English Bulldogs since 1964...I've seen from personal experience these bulldogs do just about anything imaginable...I let a friend have a dog that he named Jeffro...Mr. Wood had always said if he could find a White English with some sense he would own him....Jeffro fit the bill for Mr. Wood...Mr. Wood had several hundred acres, and leased several thousand acres...Jeffro would keep the deer run out of the garden, wild hogs out of the yard and garden, has killed large rattle snakes, and then would catch when told to...I personally use now a male White English to guard my fowl....Taz does his job to perfection...I've used them as catch dogs, and their style of catching is far different than what is being shown on the hunting videos...When a White English bulldog catches, it's not a hog and dog fight...A WE will catch, then lay parallel to the body of the hog...Only holding on to slow or stop the hog, not trying to kill it...When I had goats, I had a dog named Ginger that I would say "Ginger go get the goats...She would run around the big Bay swamp, then start barking...The goats would start coming out of the swamp in lines, and I had about 200 head of goats at the time...I could even tell her to catch a specific goat that I had pointed out, and she would catch...But, I guess what I like about them the most is their stable temperament...My Daughter is 21 yrs old, and when she was about 2 yrs. old she went missing (scared the hell outta my wife and me, we have 16 ponds on the property)...When we found Her she was inside of Prissy's dog house while Prissy was having her litter...Emily was holding one of the fresh born pups while Prissy was giving birth...Now! talking about a stable temperament!...My dogs do varmint control here on our farm...They accept what's is supposed to be here, and either run off or kill what's not...I've never used them for cattle work, but if I needed a dog for this purpose...The WE Bulldog would be the dog of my choosing...I keep no other dogs here on our place... Ladies and Gentlemen, I don't have any problems with thieves...All good folks are welcome, and all good folks are welcomed by the dogs...There are stories upon stories that can be told of some experiences with the WE...Remember, when you breed out the working traits of any breed of dog, you've lost it all..."   Jeff Clark

see The character of the WEB

WEB - Header or heeler

To understand the WEB, one must understand the original function of the bulldog. Basically, when moving large herds of cattle, there are two types of herders; a header and a heeler. The header leads the herd, while the heeler drives the herd from the rear. In large herds, headers also move along the sides, keeping the herd together. For that reason, in a typical litter of WEBs, there are more headers produced than heelers. This is because the WEB is  primarily a protection dog. When a cow strayed, the heelers would be taken to retrieve the stray, while the headers would keep the herd together. The heeler would also be good for hunting food while the headers would keep the herd. It is the heelers that are used at stockyards and on farms to move and control cattle and hogs; they are the secondary defenders. It is the headers that are used for livestock protection, the primary defenders of the herd/farm. However, both types can perform both functions when called upon. The aluant type bulldogs were always required to work as a team. While the WEBs are not aggressive, when the farm is truly threatened, they are indeed truly protective. The WEB does not require any formal training in protection work. They have been selectively bred for several hundred years to work livestock with man, fighting off cattle rustlers, Indian raids, wolves (the extinct Red Wolf), wild dogs, panthers, bears, ect. A header is typically the alpha in the pack order. As well, whether a header or a heeler, one does not describe a WEB as having drive, a WEB has heart!  (above right: Dot and Patches check on Miss Piggy. These two are "headers", they did not need to be taught like Wt Boy. Above left: White Boy has been taught not to challenge the hog. At seven weeks old, he was eye to eye with Miss Piggy; he's a heeler. A farm bulldog either learns the rules of the farm really fast, or a farmer will bury it. This is at 9 weeks, after learning not to challenge the hog. These three pups are littermates).

Basically, headers are the calmer, more serious dogs, the primary defenders and fighters. The heelers are more energetic, often with a threat display, though not ferocious, they move and control the livestock, separating them, etc. The heelers often show a threat display to distract the threat from the header who is flanking the threat. The headers stand guard, watching for threats. Gus, (below), is a perfect example of a header; very calm, very serious, very ferocious when called upon to do so. He does not simply scare a threat away with a show of threat display; he quietly watches, waiting until he attacks, also in a supremely quiet manner. You don't know he's even there until he's on you. Headers don't just injure the threat to scare it off, they go for the kill and it is fast. In such cases, the heelers then become the secondary defenders of the stock while the header is busy with the threat. When the header returns, the heelers return to their jobs as well. Only their masters command can call them off, both headers and heelers. None of this behavior is trained in the WEB; it is inherent and both headers and heelers are born in the same litter. Often times, when only one WEB is utilized on small farms, they serve as both headers and heelers. This is what Brack's Trina does. She lives on a cattle and swine farm of about 300 acres. She is the only dog doing all the work. She is the dog on the front page on the far right that is compared to cattle working Alanos.

By now, one should have a basic understanding of a WEB. Often, this breed is confused with the newly established breed "The American Bulldog." While the AB was built off of a base of WEB, in reality, today, JDJ breeds ban-dogs and AS breeds hunting dogs and both are bred for show. An AB may be one or the other or a combination of both. Do not be misled, as ban-dogs and catch-dogs go, some of the ABs are some of the finest bred. Some ABs even have many of the good qualities of a WEB. These are usually referred to as Old Southern Whites. 

It should be noted, the Scott type ABs are not very distantly unrelated to WEBs. Also, they tend to be much more functional and healthier than the Johnson type. Alan Scott tells us where he started in the breed... "I advertised them in the Gamecock magazine as protection dogs to keep dogs and coyotes and stuff out of your roosters. And I sold a sloosh of them for that." Since then, Alan developed his performance type catch-dogs, as he enjoys hunting wild boar. Don Mathews has an interesting photograph of three WEBs with a load of wild boar in the back of a truck from 1974. An AB is chained in the background.  These WEBs are Alan Scott's. Although a WEB is a very capable catch-dog, they still breed true as headers and heelers, therefore a breed outcross for more drive is most often used by hunters. 

The WEB is often very misunderstood. They are team workers and are non dog aggressive. However, any threat to their pack, including the livestock and family, will be met with a pack of fierce fighters. Care must be taken with aggressive dogs, including those in the pack. If pack order is not followed by a member of the pack, the pack will eventually cull it. This must be avoided. While the WEBs have long been a common gift to the elderly or a family for home protection, due to their ease of training and loving nature, the WEB is not a pet. A number of owners may think the WEB is just a pet, due to their high stimulus threshold and patience, but when the family is threatened, they quickly learn how fierce the WEB is. It is totally against their nature to ever challenge any member of the family. They are not stubborn or bull-headed like many other modern type bull breeds, as cattlemen and farmers would never put up with such a temperament. Unlike many bull breeds around the world, they do not require a dominate master. They are cordial with guests, but can also sense a person's intentions. If your WEB doesn't like a stranger, then you should listen to it.

Ray Lane

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